4 Books That Will Change Your Life

High-Level Overview

Mel Robbins answers one of the questions she gets most since The Let Them Theory took off: what should I read next? Her daughter and co-author Sawyer recently told her that the book's popularity has turned it into the biggest book club in the world, and Mel wants to keep that book club going. In this solo episode she shares four books from four completely different genres that changed her life: Mark Nepo's The Book of Awakening, Paulo Coelho's The Alchemist, Sarah J. Maas's A Court of Thorns and Roses fantasy series, and John Grisham's The Firm. For each one she explains when it found her, what it taught her, and in two cases the remarkable backstory of how the author got there.

The tone is warm, grateful, and surprisingly emotional: Mel tears up reading from The Book of Awakening, gets chills over The Alchemist's early failure, and then turns playful and blushing when describing a steamy fantasy series she discovered through her daughters. The episode moves from gratitude for Let Them Theory readers to four book recommendations, and she ties them together with one message: your life is preparing you for something extraordinary, and the treasure you are seeking is already inside you.

The Discussion Explores:

• Why Mel sees The Let Them Theory as a giant shared book club, and what readers say about using "let them" and "let me"
• Her lifelong love of reading, and why listening to a book counts
• The Book of Awakening: short daily meditations Mel reads every day and gives as a gift more than any other book
• The Alchemist: listening to your inner compass, being loved for simply existing, and the book's near failure in Brazil
• A Court of Thorns and Roses: fantasy, dramatic audio, escape, and creativity, plus how it inspired her book's green cover
• The Firm: how a legal thriller showed a miserable first-year law student she wasn't stuck
• John Grisham's winding path through rejection to 300 million books sold
• The through-line: setbacks and detours as part of a journey that is preparing you for something

Deep Dive into Main Ideas

The Biggest Book Club in the World

Mel opens with gratitude. She says three million people have read, listened to, gifted, or discussed The Let Them Theory in about two and a half months, and she and Sawyer are humbled by it. She shares behind-the-scenes details: the two of them spent a year above the garage "basically in a cage fight" over the manuscript, went through eleven and a half versions, cited 94 books, and discussed the ideas with experts on 19 podcast episodes before they made it into the book. They argued over every story because they wanted all of it to be relevant to readers' lives. She also jokes that she is the villain in most of the book's stories: the control freak, the judgmental one, the insecure and jealous one.

She reads a note from a listener named Aaron, who bought one copy for herself and one for her mother and read them together on a four-day vacation, stopping each night to discuss chapters. Aaron wrote that what opened both of their eyes was the "let me" part: doing what she needs for herself and learning to accept and love people for who they are rather than trying to change them. For Mel, the most exciting part of the book's success is how it is bringing people closer, and she notes that in a moment when people spend an average of six hours a day on social media, it is wonderful to see a book in the zeitgeist.

Mel also shares that books have been part of her life since childhood, when she joined a public school program called Great Books, a sort of book club for elementary students led by older kids, and later became a leader in it. She settles a common debate: "listening to a book counts," and she mentions research on which parts of the brain are involved in reading and listening.

Book 1: The Book of Awakening by Mark Nepo

This is the book Mel gives as a gift more than any other, including instead of a bottle of wine at dinner parties. It is a collection of short daily meditations, one to two pages each, organized by the day of the year. She loves that format because you never lose your place: you just open to today's date, whenever you start. She has read it since 2016, and her husband Chris reads it every day and gives it to the men who attend Soul Degree, the men's retreat he leads three times a year, where they sit around a campfire each night.

She becomes emotional reading from the introduction, where Nepo describes building a fire and staring into life, and explains that he wrote the book after almost dying of cancer in his thirties. In 2016, Mel says, things were really hard: Chris was struggling with depression and she was trying to make money any way she could to get them out of debt. The book gave her hope and encouragement when things felt impossible, and she believes Nepo's own grappling with a diagnosis he thought would kill him comes through on the page. She reads a passage Chris highlighted, which begins, "Too often we struggle stubbornly in an attempt to protect ourselves from the friction of being alive," and argues that it is that very friction that shapes us, adding, "Resisting this process doubles our pain."

Her case for it: keeping it on your bedside table means the first input of your day centers you on your capacity to rise to whatever you are facing. And giving it as a gift, she says, is like leaving a surrogate for yourself on someone's nightstand so they know they are not alone.

Book 2: The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho

Mel calls The Alchemist a must-read. It is a simple but profound story about Santiago, a shepherd in Spain who follows a dream on a spiritual quest for treasure, through twists, delays, setbacks, and epiphanies. Its most famous line is one she believes is true about life: "when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it." She also takes from it the lesson to be careful what you ask for, because you tend to get it, just not in the way you expected. And she highlights a line she finds deeply important and hard to absorb: "One is loved because one is loved. No reason is needed for loving." To her, it means your mere existence makes you worthy of love, even though so many people are out chasing it. The book's big takeaways are self-trust, listening to your inner compass, and finding the courage to start walking toward your vision.

The backstory is what makes it resonate so strongly for her. Mel reads from her own first book, The 5 Second Rule, where she recounted the story from the foreword of The Alchemist's 25th anniversary edition. When it was first published in Brazil, no one noticed: one bookseller sold a single copy in the first week and took six months to sell a second, to the same person. The original publisher canceled Coelho's contract. He wrote that he was "41 and desperate," but never lost faith because the book was all of him. Another publisher gave it a second chance, it slowly sold by word of mouth, an American visitor picked up a copy and helped bring it to HarperCollins, and eventually it became a phenomenon. Mel notes it has sold 65 million copies and spent more than 300 weeks on the bestseller list.

She got chills at that line because she was 41 and felt just as desperate when she discovered the five-second rule. Her conclusion is that "there is no expiration date on discovering and expressing the power in you," and that like Santiago, you will only find the treasure within you if you set out on the journey. She suggests giving the book to adult kids and rereading it if you already have.

Book 3: A Court of Thorns and Roses by Sarah J. Maas

The third pick is a deliberate change of pace. Mel argues you don't always have to be working on yourself; it is fun to read something that lets you escape into another world. Her family loves Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, The Hobbit, and The Lord of the Rings, but she never considered herself a fantasy reader, and certainly not of what she calls sexy fantasy. Her daughters, obsessed with the series (known as ACOTAR on TikTok), insisted she not only read it but listen to the dramatic audio version.

She explains that "Dramatic audio is like a movie in your ear," with actors and sound effects, and warns, laughing, that there is a lot of sex in these books and you may literally blush. She listened for about six months straight, while washing dishes, folding laundry, or walking, feeling transported to another world rather than her Vermont kitchen, and she loved that nobody else knows where you are. The series became a shared obsession with her daughters, and Chris listened to the whole thing too. She also reveals that the green and yellow paperback cover of the second book, A Court of Mist and Fury, inspired the green cover of The Let Them Theory, even though people in publishing warned her that green books are bad luck.

Mel adds that reading, listening to, or watching fantasy can be good for creativity, emotional intelligence, and problem solving because it makes you imagine an entirely new world. For her, it cracked open a level of creativity she hadn't accessed before, and revived a fantasy book idea she and her daughters came up with on vacation ten years ago that she thinks they may actually write. She suggests listeners consider starting a book club, and that not every book has to be serious.

Book 4: The Firm by John Grisham

Mel's final pick is John Grisham's 1991 thriller about a young associate who discovers his prestigious law firm is tied to the mob and laundering money, drawing in the FBI and putting his life in danger. It was the first page-turning thriller she had ever read, and she stayed up all night with it as a first-year law student at Boston College Law School who should have been reading textbooks.

The bigger reason it mattered is that she hated law school from the moment she arrived. She had applied because people around her were applying, didn't want to be a lawyer, and felt she had made the biggest mistake of her life and would be stuck forever. Realizing that the author was a lawyer who wrote novels opened her eyes: "You're not stuck anywhere." A degree or a profession doesn't define what you can do next, whether that is writing a book, trying something new, or starting a YouTube channel. She didn't think she would write a book; she simply realized she didn't have to practice law in a big firm.

John Grisham's Path Through Rejection

Mel walks through Grisham's backstory to show that no and failure are not the end of the story: "It's not the end of your story. It's just part of the story." As she tells it, he went to community college hoping for a baseball career but was benched and failed English, then transferred to Delta State University as a walk-on and was cut from the team. He changed colleges three times, switched from economics to accounting, earned his degree from Mississippi State University in 1977, and was inspired by a Vietnam veteran classmate to study law. He planned to be a tax lawyer, shifted to litigation, graduated in 1981, practiced criminal law for nearly a decade in Southaven, Mississippi, and served in the Mississippi House of Representatives. His first novel, A Time to Kill, was inspired by the harrowing testimony of a 12-year-old he witnessed in 1984, and it was rejected by 28 publishers before being published in 1989. He started The Firm right after, and he has now sold 300 million books.

Mel reads from a 2010 New York Times op-ed in which Grisham wrote that writing was not a childhood dream, that he took notes at the state capitol listening to great storytellers without knowing why, that A Time to Kill didn't sell, and that writing was harder than his earlier jobs laying asphalt and selling underwear, but worth it. She connects this to her own belief, asking listeners to adopt the mindset of asking what if all the nos, heartbreaks, and disappointments are the world's way of pushing you where you are meant to go.

The Common Thread: The Treasure Inside You

Mel closes by tying the four books together. Each, in its own way, points to what she tries to teach on the show: "Your life is preparing you for something extraordinary that hasn't happened yet." There is a treasure inside you that is uniquely yours, and she believes the universe is nudging you along all the time. If you are feeling stalled out or rejected right now, she encourages you to reframe the pain as lessons, trusting that one day you will look back and see exactly why it happened.

She also explains why she ends each episode by saying she loves listeners, returning to The Alchemist: "Love is literally just admiring something in someone and having them in mind." She admires people who make time for something that makes their lives better.

Conclusion

This episode is part reading list, part pep talk. Mel Robbins recommends The Book of Awakening for daily encouragement and as a meaningful gift, The Alchemist for its reminder that the treasure you seek is within you and that you are loved simply because you exist, A Court of Thorns and Roses for pure escape and a creative jolt (especially in dramatic audio), and The Firm for showing her that no one is stuck in the path they started on. The backstories of Paulo Coelho, fired by his first publisher at 41, and John Grisham, cut from teams and rejected by 28 publishers, reinforce her central message that setbacks are part of the journey, not the end of it. For anyone who finished The Let Them Theory and wants to know what to read next, the full episode offers heartfelt readings and plenty of reasons to pick up at least one of these books.

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