Akaash Singh With Joe Rogan: Jealousy, Immigrant Parents, Carnivore Diets and the Austin Comedy Boom

The Joe Rogan Experiencewith Akaash Singh· · Episode aired April 23, 2024· 10 min read
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High-Level Overview

Joe Rogan welcomes comedian Akaash Singh, co-host of the Flagrant podcast with Andrew Schulz, shortly after the release of his YouTube special Gaslit. The conversation is loose and wide-ranging: Phish's show at the Las Vegas Sphere, why jealousy and online hate are losing games, money and the hedonic treadmill, masks and crime in New York, Joe's experience knocking someone unconscious as a young taekwondo fighter and his worries about brain injury, the carnivore diet, Akaash's father's hard immigrant journey from India, government and media distrust (including Tucker Carlson's account of Watergate), AI-generated video, the Will Smith slap and Chris Rock, the craft of podcast conversations, and how Joe built a comedy hub in Austin.

The tone is friendly and funny, with Akaash often playing the self-described casual observer who admits what he doesn't know, and Joe offering stories and strong opinions. The conversation jumps between comedy-world gossip, personal reflection, health talk and politics, with a recurring theme of humility, curiosity and not taking other people's opinions too seriously.

Table of contents

The Discussion Explores:

  • Letting go of jealousy and ignoring online hate
  • Money, possessions and why "home" feels the same at any price
  • Masks, crime and politics in New York and beyond
  • Joe's wheel-kick knockout at 19 and his warnings about sparring and CTE
  • The carnivore diet, Brian Johnson and the costs of monocrop agriculture
  • Akaash's father's lost status in India and the sacrifices of immigrant parents
  • Media distrust, Watergate, government secrecy and AI-generated video
  • Chris Rock, comedy craft, listening in conversations and Austin's comedy scene

Deep Dive into Main Ideas

Letting Go of Jealousy and Online Hate

After marveling at footage of Phish's psychedelic show at the Las Vegas Sphere, where the UFC plans an event, Joe and Akaash discuss Dana White's habit of remembering everyone who insulted him, which Akaash likens to Michael Jordan's drive. Joe says he doesn't have that: he dislikes dwelling on conflict. He let go of jealousy toward other comedians around age 21, realizing it was a "weak thought." Akaash says at 27 he recognized his anger toward others was rooted in fear that he wasn't funny enough or wouldn't make it. Joe notes that performance, unlike looks, is something you can improve, so someone better than you should inspire rather than threaten you. Akaash says watching Andrew Schulz handle fame has been a blessing, showing him how to stay himself.

On online criticism, Akaash says hearing Joe say he doesn't read comments freed him. Joe explains that as a nice person who likes pleasant interactions, he wouldn't seek out angry people in real life, so why do it online? Pretending you don't care at all is also a lie, since caring about others' opinions is part of being human. Akaash shares his wife's reframe: people who leave hateful comments on someone's page over and over have built their life around hating, so they can't be taken seriously. Joe calls it "loser behavior" and says successful people don't spend time tearing others down.

Money, Possessions and the Feeling of Home

Akaash says he used to dream of buying everything once he had money, but after buying a few things he was happy with a nice place and his 2012 Honda Accord. Joe argues expensive things are only worth it when you don't feel the cost; stretching to afford them brings stress that outweighs the pleasure. He tells of his first nice apartment in North Hollywood at 27, with a loft and a pool table, which after a few months felt exactly like his bare New York apartment with a TV and a bed. "Your home feels like your home," he says, whether it's a mansion or a cheap condo. Akaash shares his wife's rule: "if you can't afford it twice, you can't afford it once." They also discuss tipping; Akaash says he now overtips the people he thinks need it most, like grocery delivery workers, while Joe describes leaving generous tips as a little "love bomb."

Masks, Crime and Politics

Akaash describes his wife's NYU program requiring masks and boosters well into 2023, which he found excessive. Joe says there's no good science behind cloth or surgical masks for viruses and describes a doctor blowing vape smoke through a mask, though both agree early caution was understandable when little was known. Akaash says he's liberal on most issues except guns and the border, and mocks the slogan "defund the police," arguing that what people describe is better training, not defunding.

They discuss the break-in at Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass's residence, underreporting of crime when police don't respond, videos of random assaults on women in New York, and two men released without bail after an alleged attack on police. Akaash says New York crime statistics show some declines and that he mostly feels safe, though he notices open drug use. On Trump's hush-money trial, Akaash says it looks like a witch hunt to a casual observer, which may only strengthen Trump's support; Joe warns that prosecuting political opponents sets a dangerous precedent for both parties.

The Knockout That Changed Joe's View of Fighting

Joe tells a formative story: at 19, as Massachusetts state taekwondo champion at the national tournament in Anaheim, he knocked out an opponent with a spinning wheel kick. The young man was unconscious for about half an hour and taken to the hospital, and Joe never learned what happened to him. When he told his instructor, the reply was, "sometimes they die." Joe realized he wasn't immune to the same fate, fighting for no money, and says it was the beginning of the end of his competitive career, alongside headaches after hard sparring and seeing older fighters slurring their words.

He explains that sub-concussive blows can cause chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), linked to impulsiveness, addiction and depression, and notes even soccer players are affected by heading the ball. His advice to friends is to avoid hard sparring; good gyms favor controlled "technical sparring" with trusted partners, though some hard sparring is needed to understand the consequences of mistakes. He also warns that punching someone on concrete can kill them and land you in prison.

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Diet, Longevity and Farming

Akaash praises the Mothership comedy club and mentions Joe's son. Joe explains he got comedians including Shane Gillis, Derek Poston, Brian Simpson and Duncan Trussell to try an all-meat diet for a month. Joe says most of his diet is meat and eggs, and that on it his energy stays level all day instead of crashing after carb-heavy meals like pasta and pizza, which he admits he loves. Akaash lost about 20 pounds on a keto-style diet before his special and found fat far more filling than carbs. Joe stresses that people his age who take care of themselves look dramatically different from those who don't: treat your body like a car and get the transmission fixed.

Akaash describes interviewing longevity-focused Brian Johnson, saying in person he came across as more noble than articles suggest, motivated by a belief that humans can live far longer with AI and by his father's illness. Joe questions Johnson's vegan diet, arguing that monocrop agriculture kills vast numbers of animals when fields are harvested, and cites figures Jamie finds on the billions of chickens and other animals killed for food each year.

An Immigrant Father's Lost Life

One of the most personal moments comes when Akaash describes his father. In India he had passed an extremely competitive exam to become a government officer, a path to status and wealth, but was told at a relative's wedding that he himself was getting married that day, in an arranged marriage, and moving to America. In 1970s Texas, with limited English, he couldn't be charming or funny the way he was in Hindi; a cousin once told Akaash, "your dad is so funny" in India. Akaash says watching that loss drain his father, who struggled with alcohol, gave him deep appreciation for what immigrant parents sacrifice.

Joe reflects on his great-grandparents who crossed the ocean from Italy with no idea what awaited them, and suggests East Coast gruffness comes from generations of hardened immigrants, while Akaash adds that population density makes friendliness harder in New York than in Texas. They discuss extreme poverty in India, Brazil's favelas and City of God, and China's population and influence, with Joe voicing concerns about Chinese purchases of farmland and equipment near military bases. Akaash stresses that criticizing a government isn't criticizing its people, including America.

Government, Media and Secrecy

Joe argues that government lacks the competition that makes businesses improve, and floats tying a mayor's pay to their city's GDP. Akaash suggests single, longer terms for presidents to reduce pandering, though Joe notes staffs would still try to keep power. Joe criticizes the "horse dewormer coverage of his COVID treatment, noting ivermectin is on the WHO essential medicines list, and says the media's coordinated attacks fail in the internet era. Joe plays a clip of Tucker Carlson arguing Nixon was removed with help from intelligence and FBI figures, including claims about Bob Woodward's naval intelligence background; Akaash admits he hadn't known any of this and says he would need to look into it. Akaash says Vivek Ramaswamy would be more persuasive talking about bureaucracy" than "the deep state." They also discuss the disputed 2000 election, Iraq, Gulf War syndrome and burn pits, and Joe says he believes the official sources may understate depleted uranium's role.

AI Video and Hollywood's Disconnect

Joe shows a realistic combat clip that turned out to be from the video game Arma 3, an AI-generated sci-fi trailer, Microsoft's tool that animates a photo with any voice, and phone features that can add smiles or erase people from photos. Akaash notes his special's mid-show ad used a background generated on a green screen. Both agree that "this is the worst it will ever be."

On the Will Smith slap, they call Hollywood's standing ovation for Smith later that night insane and say the moment showed how disconnected that world is. Joe says Chris Rock's stand-up improved afterward, with Tom Segura telling him Rock's arena set was like Bring the Pain, and that Rock's ticket sales soared. Akaash calls Rock, Dave Chappelle and Patrice O'Neal his reasons for doing stand-up, and they rank Bring the Pain and Bigger & Blacker among the best specials ever.

The Craft of Conversation and Comedy

Akaash asks how Joe prepares for interviews. Joe says it depends: he reads books before talking to scientists but prefers no prep with someone like That Mexican OT, to keep things organic. Genuine curiosity is key; people waiting for their turn to talk ruin their own shows. Akaash says podcasting has made him a better listener, and Joe describes being cornered by a bragging stranger, which Akaash reframes as insecurity rather than malice. Both agree name-dropping never works. Joe recommends headphones to avoid crosstalk.

On comedy, Akaash praises Ari Shaffir's self-released special and Joe describes Ari needing two decades to develop the skill to tell his religious upbringing on stage. Akaash says he now waits until he's good enough to tell personal stories, like his father's, rather than forcing them; Joe adds that the stage "is not therapy and jokes must be funny first. They discuss a comic who said comedy should promote social justice, Bill Hicks' influence, including a comedy club green-room wall reading quit trying to be Hicks," and Joey Diaz's rapid-fire style.

Austin as a Comedy Hub

Akaash apologizes for trashing Austin on a past visit and credits Joe with making it the best place for young comics: cheaper and friendlier than New York or Los Angeles, with the Mothership designed to develop talent through open mics, Kill Tony and comics working the doors. Joe explains he opened it because Texas stayed open during COVID and comedians moved there to perform, and that he runs it without business partners or reliance on its income. He recounts bringing Tucker Carlson and Post Malone on stage at Kill Tony unannounced. They praise Jelly Roll and That Mexican OT, whose song opens Akaash's special. Akaash closes by promoting Gaslit, calling it his next evolution as a comic.


Conclusion

This is a relaxed, entertaining conversation that reveals more depth than its meandering structure suggests. Akaash Singh and Joe Rogan keep returning to a few grounded ideas: jealousy and online hate are traps, possessions don't change how home feels, hard sparring carries hidden costs, and curiosity and listening make better conversations and better comedy. Akaash's story of his father's lost life in India adds real emotional weight, and his candor about what he doesn't know makes him an easygoing foil to Joe's stronger opinions on media, government and health. Comedy fans will especially enjoy the talk about Chris Rock, Ari Shaffir and the rise of Austin's scene.


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