LIVE EVENT Q&A: Dr. Andrew Huberman Question & Answer in New York, NY

Huberman Lab· · Episode aired December 14, 2022· 9 min read
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High-Level Overview

This episode is the recorded question and answer session from The Brain Body Contract, a live Huberman Lab event at the Beacon Theatre in New York City. With no guest and no slides, Andrew Huberman takes ten audience questions that range widely: when stress stops being useful, what self-hypnosis does for him, how to feed the gut microbiome, why people love dogs, whether night owls can become morning people, where the podcast is heading, how to prepare for workplace anxiety, what comes next in neuroscience, what he has changed in his own training, and how to know whether a long pursuit is the right one.

The tone is looser and funnier than a studio episode. Huberman riffs about his bulldog Costello, a childhood bird club with two members, tinfoil on his laboratory windows, and the idea that gut bacteria might be using humans as transport. Under the jokes he keeps returning to a single principle from the lecture that preceded the Q&A: the goal is not to live in one state, but to be able to move deliberately between alertness and calm. The conversation swings between lab findings, practical protocols, personal stories, and a few pointed opinions about how science and therapy are organized.

Table of contents

The Discussion Explores:

  • How mindset about stress changes its effects, and how to tell short-term stress from the long-term kind that deserves attention
  • Self-directed hypnosis as a way of combining focus and deep relaxation, and a one-sentence rule for breathwork
  • What the Stanford data say about fermented foods, fiber, and the gut microbiome, plus the case for nasal breathing
  • Why petting a dog feels good: eye contact, oxytocin, and the nerve fibers in the skin that respond to gentle touch
  • The four levers for shifting a body clock: light, temperature, food, and activity
  • Where brain-machine interfaces are useful today and why memory-enhancing chips are, in his view, far away
  • A simple timed exhale used as a rough gauge of how well a person is managing stress
  • Finding delight in long pursuits, and why feeling in control of one's own physiology comes first

Deep Dive into Main Ideas

When stress helps and when it is too much

Huberman opens with the work of his Stanford colleague Dr. Alia Crum on mindset. In her lab, people who watch a short video about the damage stress does go on to experience more of those effects, while people who watch an equally true video about how stress can sharpen decision-making and mobilize the immune system respond differently. He stresses that these are not placebo effects and that a person cannot simply lie to themselves; rather, which accurate information a person hears more often biases the outcome in one direction or the other.

He also pushes back on the idea that stress automatically weakens immunity. In his telling, the immune system is mobilized by the alertness side of the autonomic nervous system, which is why people so often get sick only after the hard stretch is over and they finally rest. Short-term stress, lasting a day or two or three, is in his view not a problem as long as rest follows. Long-term stress is the kind that disrupts the sleep-wake cycle: his marker is sleep that is impaired for three nights or more, with dreams shifting toward anxiety and nightmares. That, he says, should be taken seriously, and sleep is the best everyday indicator.

For accumulated or historical stress, he suggests a supported environment that lets a person go through a full cycle of intensity, catharsis, and relaxation, ideally with a clinician. Reflecting on the previous few years, he admits he does not know whether people came out more resilient or simply beaten up, and adds, "I think the world needs a good therapist, basically."

Self-hypnosis and breathwork in one sentence

Asked how hypnosis has affected his life, Huberman says he spends about an hour in self-directed hypnosis before live events and does a five to fifteen minute script daily or every other day. He credits Stanford psychiatrist David Spiegel, whose father helped establish hypnosis as a psychiatric treatment. He describes the Spiegel eye roll test: looking up without moving the head engages brainstem circuits for alertness, and looking down with eyes closed does the opposite. People who can keep looking up while closing their eyes, showing the whites, tend to be highly hypnotizable.

His definition is that "hypnosis is a state of deep relaxation with alertness and focus", a narrowing of context. That matters to him because neuroplasticity normally requires focus first and deep rest later, and hypnosis combines both at the same time. His own use is candid: he pictures something he is angry about, pairs it with a calm bodily state, and finds the anger loses its grip over time.

Along the way he offers a compact rule for breathing practices: "If your exhales are longer and more vigorous than your inhales, you're going to get calmed down. If your inhales are longer and more vigorous than your exhales, you're going to become more alert." Box breathing, with equal inhales, holds, and exhales, keeps a person roughly where they are.

Feeding the microbiome

Huberman points to his Stanford neighbors Justin and Erica Sonnenburg, whose lab studies the gut microbiome. He notes that microbes live on every mucosal lining, including the nose, and uses that to argue for nasal breathing, citing the book Jaws by Sandra Kahn and Paul Ehrlich. He suggests doing some exercise with the mouth closed as a way to build the habit. He also relays, with amusement, Justin Sonnenburg's thought that humans may simply be vehicles for the microbes.

On protocols, he describes a human study at Stanford by Chris Gardner and Justin Sonnenburg in which people who ramped up to one to four daily servings of low-sugar fermented foods, such as kimchi, sauerkraut, kefir, and kombucha, developed a more robust microbiome and lower inflammatory markers. Fiber did not produce that result in the study and raised some inflammation markers, though he is careful to say fiber is not bad and is associated with other benefits. Prebiotic and probiotic supplements, he says, are probably only necessary after antibiotics or other depletion, and highly processed food is a reliable way to deplete the microbiome.

He then draws a distinction he teaches first-year graduate students, between modulating and mediating effects. A fire alarm would modulate everyone's attention without being the mechanism of attention. In the same way, "anything that improves your sleep, your microbiome, or your social interactions will improve basically everything else." He lists sleep, nutrition, the microbiome, social interaction, and exercise as a big five that give buoyancy to every other system without being a direct cure for something like ADHD.

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Why we love dogs

Huberman's answer begins with eye contact, which he says is tied to oxytocin release, and with the fact that dogs reliably show up in their most loving state. He jokes that his bulldog Costello looked disappointed all the time, so he ended up working for the dog's approval.

The more technical reason involves C-tactile fibers, nerve endings in the skin that respond to gentle touch and feed into the brain's serotonin and oxytocin systems. He says non-sexual grooming touch, within and across species, is a powerful trigger for oxytocin. He contrasts this with dopamine, saying "dopamine is really about the pursuit of all things beyond the confines of our skin" and noting that adrenaline is made from dopamine. Dogs, he concludes, let people pet them as much as they want, while cats play a more diabolical game.

Night owls and shifting the clock

A former night owl who once blacked out his lab windows and let his schedule drift, Huberman says a true night owl has a genetically different circadian clock and is unlikely to become a cheerful morning person. Still, he estimates the clock can be shifted by two to eight hours, which also applies to jet lag.

The method is to stack four signals at the time a person wants to be awake: bright light, a rise in body temperature (a cold shower works because the body heats up in response), food on the desired schedule, and exercise, with caffeine as an aid. The same things must then be avoided late at night. Light is the most powerful of the four. On naps his rule is "nap if you want to, don't if you don't want, but not if it interferes with your nighttime sleep", with non-sleep deep rest as an alternative. He also mentions that seeing faces early in the day matters for mental health.

The podcast, criticism, and process

On the future of the show, Huberman says he tries not to think much about its reach. Lex suggested he start it, and the plan is more of the same: episodes every Monday, more topics, more guests. He emphasizes that most tools he covers are free behaviors, and he ranks interventions as behavioral tools first, then nutrition, then supplementation, then prescription or experimental drugs for some people. He recalls psychiatrist Nolan Williams discussing ibogaine and MDMA under therapeutic oversight, urges people not to take street drugs, and remarks that "childhood is enough of a psychedelic experience in and of itself". He credits his friend Rick Rubin with teaching him to stay focused on the process rather than how the work lands.

Stress inoculation and the future of neuroscience

For workplace anxiety, he recommends a private, safe practice of deliberate adrenaline release: cold water that is uncomfortable but safe, or cyclic hyperventilation of 25 breaths followed by a short breath hold, repeated two or three times. He warns against open bodies of water, telling how a colleague at the National Institutes of Mental Health nearly drowned trying cold exposure in a river. Within about a week, he says, baseline reactivity shifts, and then a person has to test themselves in the real setting.

Looking ahead, he praises neurosurgeon Eddie Chang, a childhood friend, whose implanted devices let people with locked-in syndrome communicate, now paired with realistic avatars that show facial expression. He expects such interfaces to matter for Parkinson's, epilepsy, and movement disorders, but says, "I think we are many, many, many decades from chip implantation into the brain for things like enhancing memory." His hope instead is that people learn to use the circuits they already have, that behavioral tools for depression and anxiety become widely known, and that the rival schools of therapy merge around shared principles. He criticizes academic careerism, arguing that "collaboration, collaboration, collaboration leads to faster progress", and jokes that naming the show after himself was a mistake.

His own training changes and the right-path question

Huberman says he eats carbohydrates in moderation and has never been extreme about diet or fasting. The main changes are nasal breathing during cardiovascular work, which he says eliminated his sleep apnea, and a one to three minute decompression after training without looking at his phone. He thinks task switching is an underexplored area of science.

For the final question, he offers the carbon dioxide tolerance test: take three or four breaths, inhale deeply, then exhale as slowly as possible and time it. Under 20 seconds suggests high stress, 20 to 40 moderate, and over 40 good control. He calls it a back-of-the-envelope measure to use alongside resting heart rate and heart rate variability. When that number keeps shrinking and sleep suffers, he says it is time to restore the nervous system before judging whether the path is right. Beyond that, he advises actively looking for delight in the work, recalling how brief exchanges with the janitorial staff sustained him as an isolated graduate student.


Conclusion

Across ten unrelated questions, Huberman gives the same underlying answer. Sleep, nutrition, the microbiome, social connection, and movement set the foundation; tools such as slow exhales, self-hypnosis, cold exposure, and morning light let a person shift state on purpose; and the aim is flexibility rather than permanent focus or permanent calm. He closes by saying that meaning and happiness tend to appear once a person trusts they can get themselves back to the state they want: "And the real key is for you to feel like you're in the driver's seat."


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